These are Donald Trump's Plans for Roe v. Wade, According to His "60 Minutes" Interview

In his first interview as president-elect, Donald Trump sat down with CBS's Lesley Stahl on Sunday night to discuss his reaction to his surprise win and his plans moving forward toward both the inauguration and his first 100 days in office. From the conversation exchanged in the interview, it appears that Trump is wavering on some of his campaign promises: he isn't certain about whether he'd move to indict Hillary Clinton; he's signaled that he may leave some of Obamacare intact; and now he's saying he will "only" deport criminals. (He also called the Clintons "good people" in a total turnaround from his campaign rhetoric.)

But when Stahl turned the subject toward the Supreme Court vacancy and its implication for Roe v. Wade, Trump reiterated a campaign talking point that’s brought forth fear and anger in millions of women across the U.S. "Are you looking to appoint a justice who wants to overturn Roe v. Wade?" Stahl asked. Trump first hedged by saying that "the judges will be pro-life." When pressed further, Trump ceded that if Roe v. Wade were in fact overturned (a possibility that grows all the more likely with a more conservative Supreme Court), then lawmaking about abortions "would go back to the states" and that women would just "have to go to another state," if they wanted or needed to have an abortion. "And that’s okay?" Stahl followed up. Trump didn't answer.

The rollback of Roe v. Wade wouldn't just act as a blow to women's reproductive rights in this country: it would obliterate them. In states like Texas, Louisiana, and Oklahoma — where those rights have already been eaten away at by a series of laws aimed to force women to watch ultrasounds of babies they plan to abort, to require absurd structural demands of abortion clinics themselves, and to further cut back on the length of time a pregnant woman has to abort her fetus — abortion would most likely disappear entirely. Only the financially secure would have the ability to travel for the procedure. Unsafe alternative measures would certainly increase, putting lives at risk. And in a setback that would turn the clock back innumerable years, women would be also be denied a fundamental right over their own bodies.

Of course, the news definitely doesn't come as a shock. Not only did Trump promise throughout his campaign that Roe v. Wade would be knocked down during his presidency, he chose Mike Pence as his vice president — who as governor of Indiana signed into law some of the most restrictive abortion regulations in the nation. (Luckily, a federal judge later blocked the law from going into effect.) Pence also led the charge to defund Planned Parenthood, despite the fact that the organization does not use federal funds for abortion care.

In response, there's a growing movement of women donating to Planned Parenthood in Pence's name, knowing he’ll receive a certificate in the mail for every single donation. It doesn't exactly look like Trump's hostility toward women's rights was all for show — or that he might revert back to his former pro-choice stance post-election. But that doesn't mean there's nothing you can do: Here's how you can donate to reproductive rights groups right now.

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