9 Things You Didn't Know About Gloria Steinem and Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Epic Hangout
What would a feminist utopia look like?
The longtime friends sat down for The New York Times' latest "Table for Three" feature and discussed the "unending fight for women's rights" among other things like rap names, marriage, and gender equality.
Check out some highlights from their intimate conversation below.
1. Ginsburg speaks Swedish
In 1962 and 1963, the Supreme Court Justice learned the language while working about civil procedure in Sweden.
2. Ginsburg and her late husband Marty made a pact that they would pursue the same profession
The two made a commitment to one another at the young ages of 17 and 18 to stay together forever. They both fell into the practice of law for two reason. Her husband enjoyed playing golf too much at Cornell to spend his afternoons in chemistry labs. Harvard was his next choice, but the business school was not accepting women at the time.
3. Steinem couldn't get a writing job in New York City
"And they made it very clear that women researched, and men wrote. No exceptions," Steinem said about a job she once applied for at TIME.
4. They both thought marriage was the "thing to do"
While Ginsburg married at a young age to her late husband Marty the same month she graduated from Cornell, Gloria kept putting it off. "I assumed I had to get married. Everybody did. If you didn't, you were crazy. But I kept putting it off: 'I'm going to do it, but not right now.' Until I was in my late 30s and the women's movement came along, and I realized, I'm happy."
5. Ginsburg in inspired by Thurgood Marshall
Ginsburg talks about how Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall's leadership and involvement in the civil rights movement inspired her work in the early stages of the women's movement.
6. Ginsburg is the better peacemaker of the two
"I think Ruth is better at getting along with people with whom we profoundly disagree," Steinem said. "I feel invisible in their presence because I'm being treated as invisible."
7. There is an opera based on Ginsburg and Justice Scalia
It's called "Scalia/Gisburg" and was created by a musician who is also a law school graduate.
8. Gloria Steinem’s dad inspired her current bohemian persona
Steinem notes her dad as a major influence and support during her first years as a translator thanks to his "free spirit and never having a regular job."
9. They could team up as one of the most illustrious rap duo in history
With Ginsburg's now famous nickname, Notortious R.B.G., modeled after the fellow Brooklynite rapper Notorious B.I.G., Steniem joins the gang with her newly assigned name — "Glowstick."
Listen to Ginsburg talk about what feminism means to her in the video above, and then watch her full MAKERS story here.
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