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Oprah Says Her Career Wouldn't Have Been Possible with Kids

America’s most motherly figure said her career wouldn’t have been possible if she’d had kids. When Oprah Winfrey spoke with Barbara Walters for Walters’ annual ABC News special “The 10 Most Fascinating People of 2014,” the media mogul said, “I could not have had the life or the career in the way that I had it if I’d chosen to have children.”

Oprah mentioned the same sentiment about a year ago when she spoke to The Hollywood Reporter for their Women in Entertainment Power 100 list. While her friends in seventh grade were writing down the names of their children, Oprah said, “I was having daydreams about how I could be Martin Luther King.”

She continued: “If I had kids, my kids would hate me. They would have ended up on the equivalent of the Oprah show talking about me; because something [in my life] would have had to suffer and it would’ve probably been them.”

Between TV shows and books, movie production and magazine work, Oprah has always faced a full plate. She told Walters she’s finally taking time for herself now that her talk show is over (after more than 4500 episodes, the show ended in 2011). Two months ago, she crossed an item off her bucket list when she went truffle hunting in Italy. She said she doesn’t miss the talk show pace because “you know you’re only as good as the last show. You’re always chasing the numbers. And this is the thing: The 25 years are a blur to me because I just worked.”

When Walters spoke on Good Morning America about her interview with Oprah, Walters echoed the same feeling about a lack of work-life balance. “Neither one of us took the time off to enjoy our success,” Walters admitted. “Let me give you some words of advice, okay? Take the time!”

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